Salut/hello to everybody.
May I introcuce APE?
http://ape.com.pl/
That's the link,click on the english flag if the page appers in polish.
Well, there are some spare parts for polsky fiat,opel,daewoo,vw,audi,opel...
You're intersting in 126 parts...
There are some special ignition modules recommend for alternative fuels, think of lpg or e85. They give a stronger spark +80%.
That's the first:
http://ape.com.pl/index.php?id=22&produkt=148
http://translate.google.fr/translate?u= ... t&ie=UTF-8
For fiat 125p:
http://ape.com.pl/index.php?id=21&produkt=108
For some car factories:
http://ape.com.pl/index.php?id=13&produkt=16
http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl ... odukt%3D16
application list:
http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl ... odukt%3D15
another one:
http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl ... odukt%3D18
application list:
http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl ... odukt%3D17
And now something special for cinquecento 704 and 126:
http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl ... dukt%3D164
It's the nanoplex replacement,the 3 main differences are:no rpm limiter,stronger spark and more timing advance. Think how much it can be useful for tuning or to use ethanol tha needs more timing advance.
It costs less than 25 euros. Think that you can change the position of the rpm sensor for adjustment.
Thanks for your attention.
Kind regards

Merry Christmas and happy new year to you all!

Hello.
It can be useful in case somebody doesn't know this sort of ignition.
From english to french:
http://translate.google.fr/translate?u= ... =&ie=UTF-8
It's a digital static ignition( A.E.I.). It's composed of:
The ecu
http://ape.com.pl/foto_prod/0_1178541784.jpg
The pulley with the trigger wheel (2+1)
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MQSJ49CCIns/SwrSB ... 0_6566.jpg
The sensor
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_MQSJ49CCIns/SwrSQ ... 0_6571.jpg
The coil
http://www.teilehaber.de/images/artikel/l/860100-1.jpg
It has the vacuum advance too:
The vacuum switch
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_MQSJ49CCIns/SwrSb ... 0_6569.jpg
Thi is for standard carb
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_MQSJ49CCIns/SwrSU ... 0_6567.jpg
That's the diagram of the whole ignition (from cinquecento 704)
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1167/s ... lo1kxh.gif
That's the pulley from 126:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxaANr0
I found pictures of an homemade trigger wheel to fit on pulley, I don't know if there is a piece of mistake
http://upmyphoto.com/img/image.php?imag ... 00_loc.jpg
http://upmyphoto.com/img/image.php?imag ... 00_loc.jpg
http://upmyphoto.com/img/image.php?imag ... 03_loc.jpg
http://upmyphoto.com/img/image.php?imag ... 03_loc.jpg
http://upmyphoto.com/img/image.php?imag ... 03_loc.jpg
http://upmyphoto.com/img/image.php?imag ... 03_loc.jpg
http://upmyphoto.com/img/image.php?imag ... 03_loc.jpg
http://upmyphoto.com/img/image.php?imag ... 15_loc.jpg
http://upmyphoto.com/img/image.php?imag ... 15_loc.jpg
http://upmyphoto.com/img/image.php?imag ... 21_loc.jpg
http://upmyphoto.com/img/image.php?imag ... 13_loc.jpg
However It's cheaper and simpler to use 126 el pulley. Maybe you may ask Matuskas of 126fan.sk to purchase some of them.
Somebody adds 3 thoot on the flywheel
http://www.cinquino.net/public/Davide/2 ... volano.JPG
http://www.cinquino.net/public/Davide/2 ... to%201.JPG
http://www.cinquino.net/public/Davide/2 ... to%202.JPG
Bye bye

Hello to everybody. I saw this picture, I didn't read or check but I must post at the moment:
http://ilcubopiccolo126.free.fr/dos_tec ... ame/49.jpg
I promise to check better.
I'm very courious....to know,
See you soon

Salut.
I'mnot expert, I understood tha there are jokes on that forum, It could be happen that I can realize what is true and what is a joke. Who must I ask? Shelby or porco rosso?
Regarding ignition advance, often it takes more advance on tuned engines. Sometimes the right set up is at 15°, I saw 18° too but in this case springs an bob weights are modded so it gives less advance and less aggresive. Engine starting can be difficult with that set up.
Probably 20° is false but not too much from the reality. If you really have a hot camshafth and you need more advance maybe you should try the 20ff ignition.
I hope somebody come to tell something on the car.
Shall I try to send a pm? I don't know if I can.
Thank you very much.
Good bye

Impossible to send pm.

Hi,
i don't know this car but i can say this picture is a joke. Advices on the picture are certainly true, Porco never jokes when he gives a technical advice. It can be a rough value, i don't know it.
Thanks.

Salut.
Thank you, max126.

Pieces of advice by porco rosso are very good,of course. Yes, the picture is a joke. I understood what he said about fuel pump, I can't translate well but he said to connect the pipes inverted.
About the ignition set up,unfortunately I couldn't realize the true at the moment.
I think that it'll takes a lot of time,probably there will be some exemples of ignition curves for some tuned engines.
I don' know when...
If somebody could be interesting in it,check it at turbo1sport forum. If I can I'll post the link. I hope this will happen.
Good bye

Hello to everybody.
Once upon a time I tried to log in on ethanol forum to inroduce sport ignition modules but I couldn't.
Something about conversion for a carburettored car.
http://www.super-ethanol.fr/rouler_e85/carbu.html
Maybe it's better to use mixture of gasoline and ethanol.
http://www.super-ethanol.fr/index.html
http://etanol.nu/forumrecover/viewforum ... 45b7941a55
http://etanol.nu/forumrecover/index.php
http://etanol.nu/
Take a look,it's very interesting.
You can see on web 126s running on E85.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5BzwtJ8AyI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKIUPVag ... re=related
I don't know if it canbe a good idea but there is a r 4 running on e85 without jets changeing, if I understood instead of use bigger jets he made so that air flow is restricted to change stoich.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMJteabiscU
I found a spare parts shop on line,many sort of parts,many brands for many cars, there should be parts for nanoplex ignition too, pulley with trigger wheel from 126 el,nanoplex and 20ff ecus...
http://motohurt.info/kontakt.php
http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... =&ie=UTF-8
euro/polish zloty:
http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi?Amoun ... age=Submit
Now it will be simpler find parts to fit a distributorless ignition.
Thank you very much.
Good bye.

Salut.
Last thing I'd like to show you:
http://www.doemi.com/
Merci.
Bye

Il s'agit d'un allumage electronic qui contrairement au 123 ignition que tout le monde connais ici ne capte plus les tours moteur dans un allumeur, mais directement sur la poulie.
On a donc d'après le schémas suivant: http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1167/senzatitolo1kxh.gif

- Un module connecté de la façon suivante
borne 1: capteur de tours + (poulie)
borne 2: rien
borne 3: Capteur de dépression.
borne 4: + après contact
borne 5: capteur de tours - (poulie)
borne 6: masse
borne 7: - bobine

- Une bobine double connectée de la façon suivante
borne - sur borne 7 du module
borne + sur le + après contact

- Un capteur sur la poulie.
La poulie devra comporté 3 repères pour que le capteur fonctionne.
Voir schéma:http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/pelny/6a793c43715c87c3.html
Le capteur devra être positionné à 0,4mm minimum de la poulie et au maximum à 1mm.
Voir schémas: http://www.cinquino.net/public/ilconte/2008621151623_img296019.jpg

- Un capteur de dépression connecté à la borne 3 du module. Il sert à "corriger" l'avance à l'allumage bas dans les tours. Vous pouvez rouler sans l'installer, l'allumage électronique ne sera efficace à 100% que haut dans les tours (quand le capteur sur la poulie prend le relais).

Ou trouver ces éléments?
La bobine: Chez votre fournisseur habituel, choisissez une bobine de FIAT 126 BIS.
Le capteur de tours: Magneti marelli SEN 8D (2 Pin) Ca se trouve sur ebay aux alentours de 30 euros ou en casse sur FIAT TIPO/TEMPRA/UNO/FIORINO (à vérifier).
Le capteur de dépression:
Le module: ici http://ape.com.pl/index.php?id=44&produkt=164

euh ... il est où ce shéma ? (bizard ce post !)

Ici http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1167/senzatitolo1kxh.gif

ok, c'est un boitier de quelle vehicule ? merci

C'est un kit d'allumage electronique pour fiat 126.
Je crois comprendre que cette pièce 6 se branche à l'embase du carbu. Il appel ça vacuum switch. Tu voit à quoi ça pourrai servir?